Archive for the Old Leather Guard Category

A New Dungeon In Town , Orlando Florida. The Ninth Circle

Posted in Arianna, bdsm, BDSM Communitys, BDSM Education, Bdsm events, BDSM Protocols, BDSM Relationships, BDSM Rules, BDSM Structure, communication, Dominants Protocol, fisting, MAST, MAsT Kissimmee Florida, Master And Slave, Masters And Slaves Together, Old Guard, Old Leather Guard, Orlando Florida. The Ninth Circle, Safe and Sane, slave, Submission, submissive, suspension, The Ninth Circle, Total Power Exchange, viledesires62@aol.com on September 22, 2015 by thekinkyworldofvile

The Ninth Circle

is a membership community for Education and Socialization within the Leather lifestyle……
Arianna and I were talking a couple of weeks ago and she brought up a new group on fetlife , she thought we may have something in common. As she passed the tablet and I began reading , my thoughts were WOW.
I love structure , I love Protocols , I love Education , but most of all I love when there is a place where people can go and play and not have to worry about not being safe. A place with structure, protocols and rules.
Although pictures were not allowed there are a few on the Ninth Circles website. As you walk in there is a meeting area, and a small snack bar.
Arianna and I were the first to arrive , I was really stoked and I will explain more here in a few. The class we were attending was the Introduction to leather and the History. Then after the introduction the tour of the Dungeon , I will be the first to admit with being to other Dungeons in Florida I was not really expecting very much.. What I mean is once you have seen a Dungeon you have seen them all, but this was not the case..
Master Stephen runs the Ninth Circle along with The Lady Kathryn… Master Stephen was very friendly , well spoken and he carries a lot of knowledge.  A Leather man who entered the lifestyle back in 1972 and one who was once mentored is now mentoring those who wish to carry such an honor and earning Leather.
Master Stephen opened the door to the Dungeon and as Arianna and I walked in my jaw dropped open.  The setting was awesome, the lighting was just right, new indoor outdoor carpet , I believe there were three St Andrew cross’s, a spanking bench , but Master Stephen called it a fisting bench. Two swings and a setup for bondage and suspension. Then onto the toys and my favorite which Arianna hates the Violet wand. I asked Master Stephen to use it on her nipples and she felt it for some 30 minutes after.
 You can read all about the Ninth Circle here…
 http://www.theninthcircleorlando.com/
A little more about Master Stephen:
“I entered into a life of Leather back in 1972 in New York. I was blessed to be mentored by a true Old Guard Leather Man with deep insight and personal integrity. He instilled this way of life in me, and in so many others. I was called to take over his house when we lost him to cancer in 1984. Now some 30 years later I still hold true to the traditions of my Mentor. I strive to pass knowledge and insight along to others with a true and serious desire to live a leather life, a life of personal integrity, dignity and a compassion and concern for others.
I further believe that life has changed since 1972; some for the better and some NOT SO MUCH! So, with that said, I recognize that there needs to be a current and relevant presentation of the traditions and values my Mentor taught me. For me that means looking at each person seeking mentoring and take into consideration their personal reality. It is not hard to teach the traditions and respect one need to hold for a mentor and for the lifestyle when you are living it!”
https://fetlife.com/groups/123155
Now On to why Leather is so passionate to me, Vile….
I am passionate about a few things, my relationship with my slave, the lifestyle as a whole, safety , any type of abuse and Education. I also have a few things on my bucket list.
First was to have a MAsT Chapter , it was a very long road some 6 months in the making but in the end I was giving the opportunity. Second was earning Leather , I am very Passionate about this. That was our main reason going to The Ninth Circle, but after reading the mentoring program I will have to look at a different avenue..
To me Leather is about Integrity, Honor, Discipline, Trust, Respect, Service. Its about holding ourselves to a higher standard, and I truly believe this, it is also about education , sharing with others.
If your ever in the area please check out the Ninth Circle you will have a lot of fun…..
Vile

What Is A Good Dominant

Posted in 24/7, @vile62 on Twitter, A Masters Creed, abuse, Acceptance, anal sex, anger, Anger Issues, Arianna, Baby Girl, bdsm, betrayed, blow job, Breaking Protocol, Breaking Rules, communication, control, Domestic Abuse, Dominance, Dominant, Dominant with drinking problems, Dominants, Emotions, ethics, FaceBook Vile Woods, Fake Dominants, Fake Slaves, Fake submissive, Giving Head, https://www.facebook.com/vile62, Humiliation, Leather Guard, Married Dominant, married slave, Married submissive, MAST, Master, Master And Slave, Masters And Slaves Together, Old Leather Guard, Protocol, Rules, slave, Submission, submissive, Submissive being used, sucking cock, sucking dick on September 9, 2014 by thekinkyworldofvile

You know while it is not written anywhere Dominants do have what is called a code of Honor.

At one time what set us apart were the strict protocols that were put in place, and there was a time not only did those who were slaves and submissive followed them, but Dominants did as well.

In the lifestyle we were held to higher standards , because well not only was it expected, but we were leaders. Sometime ago it took a very long time for a Dominant to become recognized within the community, it was not a title that was just giving out or a title someone could claim. As a Matter of fact many were not accepted in the local community just because of who they were and what they stood for.
So yes there was a time when protocol’s were indeed protocol’s and they were followed.

Then the internet boom, all of this information was online and available , and just as with anything you read you can take parts of this and parts of that, and come up with your own ideas.

Then somewhere along the line what we believed in and what we stood for began to fade away. Protocols were being lost in the pile of confusion.

While at a local MAsT several months ago this topic came up and as I was speaking about how things use to be another Dominant stepped in.

He stated you had to let others in who did not believe in the same protocols, rules. His thoughts were you had to let everyone in because if you did not you would have no one to lead.
So then we have to bend our rules, we have to set our protocols aside, we have to let others criticize the way we live and what we stand for.
While I do agree to a point everyone should be allowed to come to MAsT meetings, I also believe they should have to adhere to our rules and protocols, if they cannot do that, show them the door.
I would rather lead a 100 strong into battle than a 1000 blind.

Okay where am I going with this you might be asking ?

What I can say is today there are those who are fake who would never think of going to a MAsT or a munch because they know they would be called out. There would be people who are able to see through the fake wall you have built, and for the most you would be ignored.

There are things that do not mix in the lifestyle , whether you are a Dominant or you just gave yourself the title.

There is no place for anger, if you have anger issues you are not a real Dominant.
There is no place for Alcohol during play, if you drink you can hurt someone, and hurt someone bad. I have met very few Dominants over the years who have had a drinking problem. So if you have a drinking problem and you cannot control your alcohol you have no place within the lifestyle.

Last year we were at a party and another Dominant asked me if he could session with Arianna. It took me a minute to digest what he had to said, but what really got me is he had been drinking.
I explained that I did not share my property and if I did I would not because he had been drinking.

Married Dominants or single Dominants who have this idea about going after married women.

If you re married and you have to cheat on your wife because your needs are not being met, then do what a real Dominant would do, Leave. Pack your things up file for divorce and leave. Why wreck someone’s life because your little kinks are not being met.
You knew before you got married, she did not take it up the ass, you knew she did not swallow, you knew she was not submissive. You knew all of this ahead of time. To bring someone into your mess is not fair. To lie or mislead someone is dead wrong. What you have done is wasted that much time of their life.

Find you own woman, your own submissive, there is no shortage, and if you find a married woman who will fuck around on her husband, guess what? She will fuck around on you as well.
Just like the Dominant who fucks around on his wife, he will fuck around on you in time. Please do not think you suck cock that good, or your pussy is any different because it is not.

I do not like women who are weak, I am not a rescuer , I do not roll like that. I like the challenge , I love the hunt, then you move in for the kill.
I wanted the best, I wanted the woman who would not normally give me the time of day.
One thing that is for sure I never wanted another mans problems.
If you have the need to wreck someone’s home no matter how bad it is, and believe me if it was that bad they would already be gone.
You my friend are no Dominant, you are not now and you never will be.

A Dominant is a leader, a Dominant is someone who is in full control of their life. This is just no my opinion either. A Dominant accepts responsibility but more important admits when he is wrong. A real Dominant would never step between someone and their family.

I don’t want your wife, who is already fucked up in the head with her own problems. I don’t want your girlfriend, if the pussy is that easy to get, why would I want it?

I got game, I do for those of you who have been lucky enough to see Arianna, I got game.
I had to be able to back up my words, if I was going to play the game, I had to know the rules. I had to walk the walk and talk the talk. I got game
I would never stoop so low as to try and take another mans wife, more so if children are involved. They did not ask to be brought into your fucked up world, how fucking pathetic is that.

I can talk shit because I am living the dream. I have what you fake Dominant only dream about.
Yes I have what you never will.

While this blog or post is not about anyone in particular, I am sure many can relate to my words.

If your a Dominant then be one.

master

As Always

Vile

Our fetishes

Posted in 24/7, Acceptance, Adult Baby, Alt.com, Arianna, Ass, Baby Girl, bdsm, Collarme.com, communication, control, controlling, Daddy, Daddy Dom, Daddy Doms, Discipline, Dominants, FaceBook, Fake Dominants, Fake submissive, Fetish, fetlife, Foot Fetish, Foot Worship, Honesty, Kink, kinky, Master, Mini Skirts, Old Guard, Old Leather Guard, Pony Girl, pony play, puppy play, pussy, rimming, self confidence, Self-Discipline, sex, slave, Spanking, Submission, submissive on November 5, 2013 by thekinkyworldofvile

We all have our own fetishes, even if we do not admit it. We all get off on certain things, and at times our minds are more kinkier than we want to act out.

In our lifestyle we should never look down on someone because of their kinks or fetishes, we may not understand them, but it goes the other way as well someone else may not understand us.

When first meeting someone, there are somethings that are not best to share to soon. You should be careful with what information you give. One it could blow the whole thing, or two it could be used as ammunition later down the road when things go bad.

I have a bad ass fetish , I love to look, touch grab. Most of all I love anal sex, to me anal sex is the most submissive act there is, the most private part on the female body.

I have a short skirt fetish, I have almost broke my neck turning to fast to catch another glimpse. I am also a leg man I love a nice pair of legs, although they do look better on my shoulders.

The BDSM community has grown so much over the past 10 years or so, finely there was a place where people could be excepted and not be judged, or is that statement true ?

If you travel back in time to the late 60’s 70’s the Leather Guard Master And Slave, there were no Submissive. Then in the late 80’s and 90’s there was an explosion, the internet was a game changer people came to life, we could finely be who we needed to be.

Now you have puppy play , pony play , Daddy Dom and Baby Girl . Rubber fetishes , the list just goes on and on. We can be free and not be judged or is that statement really true ?

We are judged by the same people who live our lifestyle , we are judged by the ones who do not want to be judged. Why is this ? Because everyone has to be right.

That Master does not know what he is doing, or that Master is a FAKE , that Master cannot control his Slave, Or the best one is that Master cannot be real because he will not share.  Yea Ive heard that one before.

So when you first meet someone a Master meeting a new Submissive or Slave, a Submissive or Slave meeting a new Master you have to lay everything out on the table, but wait. Yes there is a BUT. These things should not be shared on the first meeting eh maybe even the second meeting. You should want to become friends first and for most.  Even when chatting and getting to know each other the topic of BDSM or limits or sex should not come up. If this does ladies you are just a piece of ass, and nothing more. I want to know you as a person, I want to become your best friend. Once you have got past that stage, then you lay your cards out, because if you do not, 3 months 6 months down the road these so called fetishes comes to light and guess what your partner is not game.

We as Dominant are suppose to be a different breed of men. We are secure by nature, we are not controlling by nature, we are self sufficient by nature, we are calm by nature. We indeed are a different breed. So if this is the case why do we not except others for who they are.  Every Dominant is different we all train different we all expect different things out of our relationship, we all have different goals, we all have different needs. .

Okay now there are a few good books out there for the BDSM lifestyle Master and Slave, but these books are one mans opinion, or a Slaves opinion. I am not to say what they believe is wrong or right, what they do works just fine for them. What I do works for me and Arianna.

I will tell you ladies something if you want to meet a real Slave meet mine Arianna, She can give you the definition of what living a Slaves life is all about. The one thing is we had an agreement prior to entering a relationship. She showed me her card I showed mine, there was no Bullshit. I will tell you this I do not negotiate, it is my way and my way only.  This does not mean I do not ask her for her opinion because I do. If there are any major decisions to be made we talk. Arianna is not a Doormat , nor is she stupid.

Be honest and upfront if someone does not like what you have to say, or they say no way would I think about doing that do not give in stand your ground. Be who you are and who you need to be.

Today we have a large number of BDSM site’s Collarme.com. More of a spam site, ALT.com use to because now you can only find Nigerian  slaves , you have FaceBook which can be awesome, and who could forget FetLife, every fucking kink in the world and you are not Bombed with spam.

Image I do have an Ass Fetish

Vile

Is Old Guard Real ?

Posted in abuse, Acceptance, Alt.com, Arianna, bdsm, BDSM Communitys, Bdsm events, BDSM Safety, Breaking Rules, Collar, Collarme.com, communication, control, controlling, Conversation, Discipline, Dominants, dress, Dress Protocol, Ego, etiquette, events, Gorean lifestyle, Gorean Master, Gorean Portocol, Honesty, Kink, kinkster, kinky, Leather Guard, Master, Masters, morals, munchs, Old Guard, Old Leather Guard, older Dominants, Open Minded, Private Protocol, Protocol, Protocol public, Rules, Safe, Safe and Sane, Self-Discipline, slave, submissive, TPE on July 24, 2013 by thekinkyworldofvile

Many of the new today will argue that Old Guard is just a Myth, it never was and never will be. When in fact I do believe and have spoken to elders who were a part of Old Guard, in the late 60’s through the early 80’s

Old Guard refers to the leather community mainly the gay community. I myself am not into the leather scene, nor am I a part of any leather family since most have blown the protocol way out of text. In my eyes a lack of respect of what use to be.

Most of the Leather Family’s today are known as pansexual , you can google that. Unlike Old Guard, today’s Leather family’s welcome most anyone, without even really knowing anything about them. In the Old Guard days there were strict rules and Protocols to be followed. The Old Guard was a closed community and you had to become a member. Before membership was allowed one had to learn all rules and protocols and follow them, if not you got the boot.

Over the years we have strayed, we have lost the meaning of BDSM and it has falling more into just a kink, a past time, weekend warriors, bedroom only. Which is okay but the problem is everyone is right, no one is wrong. When someone hears how a slave or submissive lives they are just blown away and cannot believe they would allow someone to treat them a certain way.

It is not that a slave or submissive in today’s times are part of or believe in Old Guard, they just fall into their Dominants ways of doing things. Being strict, having rules, even protocols both public and private is perfectly okay, when there is no physical or mental abuse involved.

It is not that we take the lifestyle differently some are just more serious than others when it comes to the world of D’s and M’s. How Master Joe runs his house is on him, I do not and will not judge.

Back in the day a Dominant had to make his way through the ranks, there were steps that had to be taking. If a submissive or bottom had more experience than the Dom the sub out ranked the Dom, yea sounds weird. The problem is today’s Dominants want to start out as president they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Unlike today back in the Old Leather Guard there were dress codes, and they were enforced. Arianna and I have attended some local groups and I cannot believe they way some of the sub/slaves come dressed, more so the way their master allows them out of the house. Arianna has pointed out how mouthy some are, how she cannot believe how some disrespect their Doms.

Today it would be almost impossible to put together an exclusive group for meetings or teachings because of how BDSM  has branched out. Most groups come and go because of a dictatorship or just huge egos. Most people today are close minded when it comes to how others live as well

Old Guard when in a social setting it was the Dominant with the most experience who led the conversation, on the other side if the bottom had more experience they led the conversation, if equal the Dom was giving the go ahead.

When walking the submissive walked one or two steps behind, remember you are not equal in a sense. A Dominant would never think of hugging or shaking the hand of a submissive, nor would the submissive make direct eye contact, though the Dominant would. A Dominant would never think of touching another who was owned and collard, there was a respect thing.

Protocols is a lost art today, but what I expect if out in public a Dominant or Submissive should not assume anything. A Dominant should not just walk up to a submissive and strike up a conversation, they same with a submissive. It is however proper and okay to ask. Some couples have no protocols at all, nor do they wish to, this is where the lack of respect comes into play when it comes to what others believe. I have had people say they could never live like Arianna nor would they want to. What we have as a Master and Slave is very unique and special.

Old Guard when a Dominant was being served there were two ways, one palm out and flat drink on palm, the other the sub would kneel head down and arms extended making the offering. Depending on the protocol the sub could either leave or had to ask permission.

Those who play on the internet who belong to sites such as Collarme.com Alt.com BDSM.com and so on generally stay on those sites with very little real in person interaction, those who get lucky enough to find a submissive or Slave generally fuck it up because they have no real clue what a in person interaction is. It does not take long for the Submissive to realize they have been played. The so called Dominant will generally put the blame of the submissive when it comes to the relationship not working.

When I speak about myself at times I mention old school, and not old guard. Old School just means I hold certain values when it comes to the lifestyle, I give and expect respect. I set my life to a certain standard as I do with my Slave. I expect when out my slave is giving the up most respect and she will do the same in return.

So in closing I think we should all get back to the basics when it comes to the lifestyle. Yes we do need rules, yes we do need guidelines, yes we do need dress codes, yes we do need protocols. More so we do need to respect others.

Coming in at the top of those who truly live the lifestyle with the fullest respect are those of the Gorean lifestyle. If you should ever have the honor of meeting a Gorean Master or Slave you would be truly amazed. Old Leather Guard probably not since the lifestyle is based on a line of books, but the lifestyle is very strict and respected by many. I am not saying everyone should live the Gorean way, but if you study up on it, it will give you a way different out look and perspective of their lifestyle.

We should all come together as one, and set standards, keep the lifestyle proud, keep the fakers out. It could be done.

Image

Vile

Is Old Leather Guard Just A Myth ?

Posted in 24/7, abuse, Advice, bdsm, BDSM Communitys, Bdsm events, blow job, Cherish, Consensual, control, controlling, Conversation, cum, Dominants, dress, Dress Protocol, Fake Dominants, Fake submissive, Giving Head, Health, Honesty, Kink, kinkster, kinky, Loyal, Master, Masters, molding your slave, munchs, Myth, Old Leather Guard, oral, oral sex, Patience, pleasure, Private Protocol, Protocol, Protocol public, pussy, Safe and Sane, sex, sex slaves, sharing, slave, submissive, sucking dick, Task, Total Slavery, TPE, training your slave on March 17, 2013 by thekinkyworldofvile

Arianna and I attended a New Munch yesterday, in hopes of finding a permanent group, both of us were really disappointed. Although the people were really nice and welcomed us with open arms, it is just not what we are looking for. We may give it another chance but I truly doubt it. The munchs we attend are solely for Arianna. I myself believe it is very important for ones slave to interact with others alike. I also believe it is very important for the Master or Owner to insure there is growth within the relationship. Just my opinion.

Every time we have left an event Arianna has made the comment. I cannot believe the way the other slaves acted, or the way they talked back to their Master. Well she is correct, I go back to what I call Old Guard. There was Honor, Respect, and yes again Protocol.

Although I am a smoker, there was never smoking allowed in a Dungeon , or drinking before play. Most of all a Slave would never make rude comments to her Master even jokingly.

Arianna is always dressed very nice. A comment was made from another submissive we had met, on how good Arianna always looked. This is the truth, I dress her. I tell her what to wear, how I want her hair, and makeup, and what shoes to wear.

Last month we left a munch and another Dominant made the comment, maybe I should just find a slave I could dehumanize. Wow really I knew the comment was made towards me. While I did not take offense to the comment, I found it to be somewhat expected coming from him.

Okay maybe just maybe I am somewhat unorthodox , in the way I believe a house should be ran, maybe I am a little to strict, maybe I expect my slave to excel, no matter what she is doing. Maybe I do control every movement, right down to what she eats and how much. Maybe just maybe sex is on my terms. Last night I allowed her to come, I am guessing it had been a little over two weeks. I made her masturbate while giving me head. I could tell she was in heat, so I allowed her to get on top. It took her all of thirty seconds to cum. Then afterwards I heard a very soft , Thank You.

Old Leather Guard started off within the Gay community in the early seventy’s and quickly spread through out the community. Why? the respect, honor and protocol.

I would also like to say I am not a suck my cock Dominant, my cock does not run my life, although Arianna does have awesome skills when it comes to oral. Getting my cock sucked is not my only thought.

The truth is, it is about me, and only me, and I will explain. Being a Dominant is not just a game. A male cannot wake up one morning and say I am a master, or just because you are in a D’s relationship does not make you a master. If your a master and your with a submissive or slave and your her first dominant or she thinks your a dominant , but your just using her to get your rocks off, eh not so much of one.

The care that goes into owning a slave is a great responsibility, my day does not end until after I have tucked Arianna into bed for the night. The last thing she does before going to sleep is the reading of my rules. Then I can relax for the night. That is my down time kick my feet up, and maybe watch a little TV. In the morning I wake , I turn the coffee pot on, my cup and the bowl of sugar is sitting next to the pot.  Once Arianna wakes she makes the request to get up. I then make her a cup of coffee and we set and we talk, about her dreams or we plan out the day. I keep Arianna busy with small task through out the day as well.

Today everyone is more interested in getting what someone else has. I have been asked numerous times if I share, and the answer is no I do not share, nor will I ever. What is mine is just that mine.

Where is the respect factor when it comes to other Dominants. Okay so Dominants my age are a breed who is slowly dieing out. I have been turned away from munchs by a twenty year old Dom because I was to old for the group. Again where is the respect. It is not like I was showing up for a piece of ass. Where is the protocol? All of the above is gone right out of the window.

Okay your a twenty year old Dominant a master. What are you a master of. What could you of possibly learned in such a short period that has taking me twenty years to learn, and the truth is I am still learning. Everyday I learn something new. To be turned away by a twenty year old, WOW.

Am I unorthodox in my way of thinking. I will tell you the answer is no. I will say this I have gone through a line of subs and so called slaves to find the right connection. The right Slave who could fit my needs. See yes in the end it is about me.

Old Leather Guard. At one time Dominants were very close, Masters and Owners. Information was passed along , great conversation, even a warning list of fake dominants. There was no criticizing on how another dom did not know what he was doing. After all we each have our own way of training. At one time Dominants really got along. Respect to this day you will hear me address an older Dominant as Sir. I am not submitting I am being respectful.

Am I unorthodox ? When I met Arianna she handed me a book, the book was about her. She told me to write another one, she wanted everything erased. The book would be based on how I see a slave. So I grabbed an eraser , and I began to edit Arianna. The process only takes about a month. This is just a start, you begin by taking old habits away and introducing new ones. This cannot be done if you are not 24/7 or you do not see someone on a daily basis.

First and foremost the Slave not only has to be true, but willing. The slave has to truly want the change. It is like I have tried it on my own and it does not work, so here I am.

I run an old Leather Guard style home. To most I am to strict. Arianna has no say so in anything. There is one exception here and only one, and I have made this perfectly clear. If Arianna sees that I am about to make a mistake, which is unlikely to happen, but in the event of me making a mistake, Arianna does have to right to voice her opinion. At that time it is up to me to listen to her. I do value her opinion.

Our relationship is based on respect, our relationship is based on the truth, and nothing but the truth. Our relationship is based on communication. Our relationship is based on the desire to make the relationship work.

Do I get tired? Sure I do mentally tired, not overwhelmed though because I do enjoy the lifestyle and the relationship I am in.

So we are talking a month to get the basics down. I am not talking about handing out a handful of rules that will cause a crash. The first thirty days tells everything, will the slave be able to stick it out or will she run for cover, and find another dominant who is not so strict, or one who does not expect so much.

I have been asked if the Old Leather Guard is real. My answer would be yes, although there are many who would disagree.

If the Master truly cares for his. He will take the time out to teach his way. If the Master truly cares he will listen, he will find the slaves needs. He will care about the slaves emotions. He will want to hold her, and talk and listen.

The rewards at the end of the rainbow are truly there, it is a lot of work but it is there.

Image

Vile